Francesco Carotta, – The spreading of these texts is free, except for commercial purposes. SUMMARY. The question is: IS JESUS DIVUS JULIUS?. There are many parallels and strange similarities like this to be found in the life of Julius Caesar and the stories of Jesus Christ Too many. Jesus Was Caesar by Francesco Carotta, , available at Book Depository with free delivery worldwide.
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Also, the author’s website is here: It spurred me to do a lot of research of my own regarding Julius Caesar, and what I discovered amazed me. There is a curiously large number of coincidences in the life of Julius Caesar, and “Jesus Christ”. I francescp it must seem as if I know nothing of either person for me to even start thinking this Myself, and a few others have tried to talk to other people about this online, but really, to no avail.
Staunch Christians of course do not frqncesco the idea at all. And neither do non-Christians, especially those cartta who have spent a lifetime researching the uncomfortable facts about Christianity: It is quite strange. Anyway, I have found the book and its ideas to be suprisingly and disturbingly plausible.
Hopefully a few other people might also want to talk about this book if they visit the above websites, or even buy the book and read it. This message has been edited by Aquitaine, May Untitled Msg ID Thread But as is, it’s a pretty silly idea. Aslan is not a Tame Lion This message is a reply to: This message is a reply to: Three days after his death, three Roman Buddhist Monks set out in search of the reincarnated Caesar.
Four 40 years they wandered checking each infant, presenting objects that had been owned by Caesar, but nowhere did they find the child. Then, while visiting one of the minor provences of the Roman Empire, a minor local politico told them of an amazing child.
They jumped on their their camel named Clyde and Ride Camel Ride. Soon they arrived at the child’s house and as they entered, the child jumped up and said “I bet I can guess what you’ve got in your pocketesse”.
So he guessed “Myrrh and gold, and Frank’s good sense.
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This message has been edited by jar, Now I’ve got coffee over my keyboard. Yes, it sounds ridiculous, I know. It was my first reaction too. Here’s a quote from the book, that lists just some of the stuff I find interesting.
There are many parallels and strange similarities like this to be found in the life of Julius Caesar and the stories of Jesus Christ Gallia and Galilee are the respective neighboring countries in the north. Both have to cross boundary rivers: Corfinium and Capernaum respectively are the first cities in which they arrive. The stormy seas that are crossed by Caesar and Jesus also act as borders: The resemblance of the names is astonishing too: Considering the resemblance jesis the names casear the similarity of the requisites, a sequence emerges: Now, if we try to extend this sequence, we find that Caesar expels the commander of the enemy occupying the town of Corfinium; Jesus expels the unclean spirit of a possessed man.
The English words occupied and possessed both have the same Latin equivalent: Msg ID Thread I thought it was Elvis So how does the book explain the missing century? Or is it suggesting Jesus was ficticious, and simply made up from bit’s of Caesar’s biography? That would be fun Thus the suggestion is: Then in that case, the Revelation would tell the story of the Egyptian campaign of Octavianus in mystical form. Thats not inherently silly.
Replies to this cwrotta Basically, the mistranslation of Latin history used in the worship of Julius Caesar or: Divus Iulius into Greek, resulting in the early gospel, is more understandable when you realize that whoever did these original translations were not very familiar with Latin, and were very unschooled in Greek.
An addition, another source of confusion was the fact that ancient manuscripts had no spaces between czesar words the letters all ran together and there was no punctuation either Also, the original Greek translation was done on the backsides of papyrus ont he front the Latin was already written and the rough texture of the backside of papyrus would make the Greek harder to read, thus francesoc mistakes in the copying would have occurred It is all a recipe for disaster.
These were uneducated people attempting to translate documents when they had only a very poor knowledge of not only the languages used, but also of the subject matter itself. They were very uneducated about the history of Julius Caesar and the political intricacies of the Roman civil war, etc So it appears they often ended-up making guesses. It would explain a few things To describe crossing the Rubicon as the beginning of his “rise” leaves out an awful lot.
There is no way that the early Christian writers could reasonably arrange for convenient place names, so much of the similarity must be accepted as simple chance or casued by other factors.
While I am open to the idea that the story of Julius Caesar might have influenced the Gospel writers I would need to see something far strogner than this.
Of course, it went completely bonkers when I first found Carotta’s website and read about his idea! But it was so intrigueing that I started to do my own research into Roman history and on Julius Caesar in caesxr. There are a lot of ways in which this new “paradigm” franceeco you will, can cadsar things better than the current “paradigm” Anyway, I hope you give the book a chance. There are a lot of interesting new ideas in it to mull over. But Carotta accounts for them.
In the eyes of his cult worshipers, the real religious power of Divus Iulius was the fact that he was murdered by the very same men whom he had saved. There’s some important things to realize: When Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon, it touched-off a civil war between himself along with his followers, political allies, and his own legionaires and the optimates, the senatorial party, who cesar by that time placed Pompey as their “leader”.
Pompey was thus the military head of a group of conservative, traditionalist ‘aristocrats’, of sorts.
Jesus was Caesar
He was a man of the people. The Optimates, while Caesar was in Gaul, had been jerry-rigging legal matters in order to outflank Ceaser politically. One must be aware: If things went the way they had with the Gracchi brothers, Julius Caesar’s days were numbered, as well as all his followers.
Caesar crosses the Rubicon and sets-off a civil war and long-story-shortdefeats the forces of Pompey and the optimates. The masses of people in Rome are wildly enthusiastic because finally, Rome is theirs and they now have a chance to participate in the way things are run. At this point, as well as all during the civil war, Caesar astonishes everyone by doing the opposite of what Sulla did: Sulla had massacred all opposing politicians when he had gained power fancesco piled their heads in the forum.
He is showered with all sorts of unbelievable honors and priviledges. They no longer eas the reigns of power in Rome; they no longer can make wad go in whatever direction their carotya might choose. Most likely they have lost their honorable positions carotha the eyes of the people, because they now live at the mercy of the People’s Savior, the man who has now become a god!
So they plot against him, and succeed. In the perception and understanding of the people of Rome, and even of much of the empire: They killed the man the same who had defeated them repeatedly in battle but who, when he had direct power of life and death over them, had forgiven them!
They had killed the man who had franceaco them into positions of great political power, even after they had fought against him, trying to kill him. They had killed the man the people of Rome proclaimed a god. His funeral aroused feancesco emotion, and caused the murderers to flee. Far from being applauded for their deed, they barely escaped sure destruction the night of Caesar’s frncesco And were all eventually hunted down.
If this great angst of the people was the founding emotion and if from it came the perspective of the worship of the deified Julius Caesar Divus Iuliusthen the most important portrayal of this god would have concentrated on the Caesar-Pompey civil war and then Caesar’s murder So, it would need only begin with the crossing of jewus Rubicon Carotta seems to think that the mistranslations were done by those who confused Gaul and Galilee.
IIRC, feels pretty sure that it took place during the time of Vespasian. By that time, some of Caesar’s important legions still existed. They were based for a long time in the jesuz area of Judaea! Many of these men were For Caesar conscripted many Gauls into his army during his time in Gaul Vespasian sent them back west, when he was vying for the throne.
But these were the descendents of the original legionaires of Caesar. They had already begun to misunderstand and transpose certain place names in the Latin and identify what little they understood in terms of Galilee, Judaea, Jordon, etc.
I am not quoting Carotta here, so the book probably describes it a lot differently, I am sure. It’s best to read the book and come to your own understanding.